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1977 Interview with Ronnie Van Zant

Monday, May 30, 2011

Ronnie Van Zant lead singer and songwriter of Lynyrd Skynyrd

Ronnie Van Zant lead singer and songwriter of Lynyrd Skynyrd

PEOPLE magazine interview with Ronnie Van Zant, October 1977:
UP FRONT: The Rock Road claims another tragic victim: Ronnie Van Zant of
the Lynyrd Skynyrd band
Too old to Rock-N-Roll, Too young to die is just a sardonic song by the Jethro Tull group. The terrible reality of this 25-year-old art form is
that a disproportionate number of its stars have died in their creative prime. Some OD’d on the instant fame and the temptations of too much disposable income. Some artists confused drugs and drink for a muse until they became a fatal addiction, especially in combination with overpowered motorcycles and cars. Life in the fast lane(as the Eagles hymned it)only worsened the actuarial odds. The more money that was spent on dangerous pursuits, the more that had to be earned on merciless touring schedules in which the all-night travel miles–and the risk–inexorably mounted. Sometimes, admittedly, the blame was greedy management or perverse fate. But major figures from Buddy Holly(1959) to Otis Redding(1967) and Jim Croce(1973) were lost in plane crashes. The latest was buried near his native Jacksonville last week. He was Ronnie Van Zant, 28, co-founder, writer and lead singer of LYNYRD SKYNYRD. It had supplanted the Allman Brothers as the reigning Southern boogie band and as a leading U.S. challenger to the British hegemony of the concert coliseums. The group members who eight years ago were working $100-a-week Florida
honky-tonks this year reached a new peak of commercial importance–and threat of drunken self-destruction. Single concert-concert guarantees
ranged up to $150,000. Three of their LP’s sold a million. At the same time Van Zant was noting, “we made the WHO look like church boys on
Sunday. We done things only fools’d do.” Ronnie, after a dozen arrests for brawling and misconduct himself, helped convince Lynyrd Skynyrd this
summer that “we had one last chance to get it together–we ain’t getting any younger.” Their latest LP, Street Survivors, which just hit the
stores gold, had been recorded, uncharacteristically, cold sober.
Similarly, they jokingly dubbed the three-month, 50-city journey they launched last month as “The Torture Tour”–their first in years when they would try to face audiences without being dead drunk. Then, between Greenville, S.C. and Baton Rouge, en route to their fifth date, the band’s chartered Convair 240 prop jet, reportedly low on fuel, nosedived into a swampy thicket in southwest Mississippi. Van Zant was killed instantly. Also dead at the site were guitarist Steve Gaines; his backup vocalist, sister Cassie Gaines; the assistant road manager, and the two-man flight crew. There were 20 survivors, but many were hospitalized. If ever reconstituted, LYNYRD SKYNYRD could not be the same.
Wreckage of Lynyrd Skynyrd plane

Wreckage of Lynyrd Skynyrd plane

Stunned and mournful, the rock world had lost one of its mosy
colorful and distinctive artists.
A few days before his final week on the road, Van Zant had invited PEOPLE’s Jim Jerome for a rare interview at his home in Doctor’s Inlet,
Florida.
Jerome’s Report:
The most devastating irony of the Skynyrd tragedy was that Ronnie Van Zant really seemed to be recovering from what he himself described as
“five years of alcoholism.” Anyone who had heard his pained and snarling blues delivery in performance, seen his barefoot inebriated swagger and
met him backstage afterward–often thicklidded and stuporous–would hardly have recognized him. Alert and athletic, he was trimmer than he had appeared in years and exuberantly personable in conversation. it was a jolt to meet the new Van Zant, legendary trasher of hotels, when he knocked on the door announcing “Room service.” He strode in confidently, his long hair past his shoulders, shoeless and precariously carrying a huge tray of food playfully borrowed from a bellboy. “Will that be all?” he asked, before cracking into a smile. It made one believe that musicians as well as politicians can be reborn. As he hunched over the wheel of his pickup truck driving to his lakeside home 30 minutes from Jacksonville, Ronnie was a vision of self-renewal. He pointed out the track where he was jogging two miles daily to get in shape for the tour, and he detailed the high-protein diet his wife was holding him to. Then he gave in and stopped for a six-pack, apologizing, “This is the most I’ll have drunk in the past six weeks.” As the guided tour continued, he drove by a prison farm. “Hey,” he said, “if prisons, freight trains, swamps and gators don’t get ya to write songs, man,
y’ain’t got no business writin’ songs.” Once at his home, the serenity he enjoyed around his wife of five years, Judy, and daughter Melody was
clear.(He also had a daughter, now 10, by a failed previous mariage.) Van Zant crawled around on the living room rug, circling an armchair with his delighted daughter on it, playing “gonna GETCHA.”"The baby’s had a lot to do with my maturing,” he believed.
Ronnie showed off his own supserstar toy, a ’54 white Mercedes “that I found settin’ up on blocks in a junk shop. Found out there was only nine in the world,” he explained, “and I put $11,000 into it already.” Then Van Zant decided to try some fishing. He carried three poles and a long sleek gun “to blow away any gators that might come up on my land.” While casually fly-casting and sipping beer, he talked about his tumultuous past. “I was abusin’ myself on the road, because after all, man, if it ain’t fun, it ain’t worth it.” But he didn’t condone the “fool things” like pouring Jack Daniels into the TV set until it exploded. “If you’re into drinkin’ and tearin’ up hotels and blowin’ gigs, that’s fine. But it’ll take years off your life too. I ain’t as old as I look,” he added, “and there are plenty of false teeth in our group. There’s been treatment by doctors and hospitalizations for our drinkin’.”
The extent of treatment was understandable, as his narrative of the bad old nights continued. “We were doing bottles of Dom Perignon, fifths of
whiskey, wine and beer, and we’d all have to puke once each before goin’ onstage. We couldn’t even remember the order of the songs. Some guy
crouched behind an amp and shouted them to us. We once looked at tapes of shows–man, we was sloppy drunk,” he flushed. “I couldn’t believe
kids applauded for that crap.” Other audiences–around his hometown, oddly– were less accepting, and he hadn’t played there in six years.
Ronnie claimed he was once so zonked “I spit up one of my tonsils onstage and walked off. The people demolished our equipment, threw bottles, and four cops were hurt.”
Later that October evening, which was to be one of his last at home, Van Zant was visited by his two younger brothers, both lead vocalists in rock groups–Donnie with the promising 38 SPECIAL and Johnnie with the local AUSTIN NICHOLS BAND. His brawny ex-trucker dad, Lacy–who first got young Ronnie hooked on music while highballing up the east coast to the crackling sound of country(their favorite: Haggard)–also stopped by. Van Zant grew up in a tough shantytown section of Jacksonville, got his first highs singing with the family’s Holy Roller church choir. As a teenager he had already formed a primitive precursor of LYNYRD SKYNYRD with Gary Rossington and Allen Collins, both guitarists(and survivors of the crash). The title was a corruption of the name Leonard Skinner, who was a hard-nosed high school phys ed teacher.
The name began to mean something nationally in 1974 with their hit single, SWEET HOME ALABAMA. As for their own Florida home, LYNYRD SKYNYRD was rarely off the road for more than days at a time. That was before this summer, when Van Zant seemed ready to end the disorienting
years on the run. He’d bought 29 acres of choice Tennessee hill country where the family had recently camped out for a few days, but Ronnie also
pondered a more family-style neighborhood in Jacksonville. As he said in his idiom, “My wife don’t want our daughter to grow up a swamp hermit.
Other kids’ll be good for her.” Yet on the eve of four rehearsals, Van Zant conceded he felt restless after the unprecendented six weeks
hiatus. He could not deny that “the road is home to you after 12 years.
I went crazy eight years ago,” he said with a devilish grin, “so the road don’t matter no more.” What did matter to Ronnie Van Zant was headlining for the first time ever at New York’s Madison Square Garden. To him the gig–it would have been next week–represented LYNYRD SKYNYRD’s official recognition among the rock superelite. he also knew, looking back, that he had given–and taken–a lot to earn the honor. “In the beginning,” he said, “we use to play one joint till midnight for kids; then they turned it into a bottle club and we’d go til 6 a.m. It really tightened us up as a band,” he
recalled. “When you’re from the south, man, you learn to work your azz off, and we did. It was HELLATIOUS.” He stopped and turned to invite a
lasting eye contact. After a pause he added: “Hellatious and the best years of our lives.”
Lynyrd Skynyrd – What’s Your Name

LYNYRD SKYNYRD Ronnie Van Zant and me Gene Odom

Tuesday, May 3, 2011

LYNYRD SKYNYRD Ronnie Van Zant and me Gene OdomIts called “Lynyrd Skynyrd-Ronnie Van Zant and Me, Gene Odom”. It will be published soon by I-books out of Nashville. Thanks-Gene
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LYNYRD SKYNYRD Ronnie Van Zant and me Gene Odom
During a time when toughskin blue jeans, button-down shirts, and flat-top haircuts were all the rage, Gene Odom and Ronnie Van Zant became best friends. Growing up on the same block, Ronnie and Gene fished, played football, and dreamed together. Years later, one of the boys would become famous—and the other would stand by his side through thick and thin. This is the story of two young men from the same neighborhood, school, and world who together, discovered the meaning of true friendship.
As Ronnie’s dreams of becoming a professional musician finally became a reality, Lynyrd Skynyrd began selling out arenas and became famous for not only their music, but also their substance abuse. After Ronnie offered Gene a job as a security officer for the band, he embarked on an unforgettable journey into a world like no other. But everything would change in October 1977 when the plane carrying the band plummeted from the sky.
Lynyrd Skynyrd, Ronnie Van Zant, and Me … Gene Odom provides a fascinating behind-the-scenes glimpse of what it was like to be friends with one of the biggest rock stars of the 1970s and how a friendship between two childhood buddies stood the test of time.
The Heart and Soul of Lynyrd Skynyrd Allen Collins and Ronnie Van Zant

The Heart and Soul of Lynyrd Skynyrd Allen Collins and Ronnie Van Zant Photo by Brandon Campbell

Chapter #1
1974
“If You want to talk Fishin, that’ll be o.k.”
The phone started ringing while it was still dark. He looked over at the alarm clock and crawled out of the perfectly warm bed. As he answered the kitchen phone, the voice on the other end said, “Are you ready to go yet?” He smiled a sleepy smile. His buddy, Ronnie Van Zant was ready to go fishing. Gene looked out the window over the sink. The street lights allowed him to see that the wind was calm and the car hoods were dry up and down the street. He grabbed a bottle of RC cola out of the refrigerator and went back to the bedroom closet to put on some jeans and a t-shirt as quietly as possible. He didn’t want to wake his wife Brenda Joe and little Melissa. He grabbed his wallet, kissed his wife on the cheek, and headed out to the car port to gather his fishing gear. He could hear the truck coming up Mull Street as he picked up his tackle box. He nearly dropped everything as he turned to leave the garage. Maybe later today would be a good time to talk to Melissa about how to use the kickstand on her bike.
The truck stopped in the middle of the street. Gene opened the truck door to be greeted by a long haired rock n’ roll star that was truly glad to see him. “How’s it going Buddy?” The radio was playing “Silver Wings” and Merle Haggard sounded like he meant every word. As the truck ambled slowly around the corner it was just like it had always been. Two young men from the same neighborhood, the same school, the same world. Yet the dreams were different. Life can sure throw some curve balls.
It seemed like yesterday that these same men were just teenagers barely 15 years old “jukin’ “at some neighborhood party trying to act cool, hoping to meet a girl. Any girl…”How is life on the road? You know you’re gettin’ pretty well known for tearing up hotels. Doesn’t that hurt the bottom line just a little bit?” Ronnie looked a little bit embarrassed. “Man, those hotels are like being put into some kind of prison. We spend day and night together and sometimes you just want to blow off a little steam, you know? The music is all that matters anyway. And maybe bad press is better than no press.” Gene just laughed and said, “You are gettin’ press, there ain’t no doubt about it. I’ll tell you one thing, when this music thing slows down, if it ever does, we ought to get you into politics. You know people hear what you�re saying in those songs. We could get you to be Governor and maybe I could be like a fishing ambassador or something.
The water was slick as glass when they dropped the boat in. There was a sliver of pink showing off in the eastern sky. It was going to be hot, but not until later in the day. Right now, all things seemed perfectly aligned to catch a fish.
“I stopped by Claude Hamner’s midway grocery store yesterday. That “Curtis Loew” song has really put some smiles on some faces around here. I’m not really used to hearing Skynyrd when I’m buying bologna for my lunch at work.” Ronnie laughed and said, “I can’t believe all of this is happening myself. Me and Gary and Allen were talking about it the other day during sound check. It seems like yesterday we were running around the block throwing rocks and sneak in’ cigarettes.” A mullet jumped out of the water making a splash 50 feet from the boat. “You know I can feel that bass swimming our way right now. One of us is going to catch a monster.” Ceremoniously, the water broke across the top as Ronnie’s pole nearly fell out of his grip. Gene! I’ve got something on the other end of this thing! It truly was a trophy and Gene had never seen his friend happier. It was May 1977.
Chapter #6
1956
“Searchin’ for soda bottles and get myself some dough”
The little boys’ feet were pedaling slowly down Mull Street. He was focused on maintaining his balance as he delivered five more soda bottles to Claude’s Midway grocery around the corner. It was early Saturday morning, the dew was still on the ground, and it was about to be a hot one.
The man in the white apron was Claude Hamner. He was the owner and was always glad to see the little boy. The wooden screen door screeched open and Claude couldn’t help but smile. Little Gene Odom was delivering his weekend recovery for pocket change. “I looked up and down all the ditches and parking lots as well as the dirt track. Maybe tomorrow morning I can find a few more.” “Not bad work for a Saturday morning Gene. Here’s your money and the moon pie and the RC is on me. A working man like you needs to keep his strength up.” The little boy just smiled as his small hands took the moon pie and ice cold drink. “Thank you, maybe I can find a few more bottles tomorrow morning.” Just as he turned for the door, a white Marita Bread delivery truck pulled up beside the little store. Gene got on his beat up bicycle and pedaled for Ronnie Van Zant’s house. Ronnie was already out near the street throwing a baseball up in the air.
“What’s going on?” “Just gettin’ rich three nickels at a time. What’s up with you?” “Not much. Do you want to head over to the trees on the third turn of Speedway Park this afternoon? We can watch the race and maybe a tire will fly over the fence. We can sell it back to one of the drivers and make some folding money instead of a pocketful of nickels.” “Sounds like a plan, but if the plan falls apart we’ll go fishin’ when it cools off at the creek o.k.?” Ronnie smiled. “I’ll see you in a few hours. When dad get’s home, I gotta help around the yard for a little while. I’ll catch up with you as soon as I can get away”.
Gene pedaled off. It would be a good day to just hang out and dream of being on that track with the great Lee Roy Yarborough and Wendell Scott…
Later that day, Ronnie and Gene found themselves fishing. No tires came over the fence that day, but the race had been exciting. The stands had been full even in the extreme Florida heat. Some guy named Bobby Allison had won the final race and had got to kiss the pretty girl with the crown and was given the trophy. That man was living the dream.
Watching the bobber in the nearly still water of Cedar River, Ronnie seemed to have something on his mind. “Gene, I’m not going to spend the rest of my life waiting for something to happen. I’m going to make something of myself one of these days.” The Cedar River kept moving gently towards the St. Johns River a few miles away. Some dreams fade away like current in a stream. Others burn like a light that won’t burn out no matter what life throws at you. That’s when a dream turns itself into a vision and a true vision won’t die.
There has been speculation of just who Ronnie was referring to when he sang about the little boy picking up bottles early in the morning in “Curtis Lowe”. Most likely, the portion of the song that was sung as in first person experience was really about Gene. This song in particular had several characters in Ronnie’s mind that he brought together to represent one little boy and one black guitarist. As a young boy, Gene has told me that Ronnie would have been too proud to be out in the community ditches picking up empty bottles to sell. Ronnie’s parents had good jobs so he probably didn’t need to worry about extra spending money. Gene on the other hand, had come from an entire litter of brothers and sisters. He had to do some extra work even at that age if he was going to have any change in his empty pockets. The Van Zant’s back porch was often one of the places Gene would find some empty bottles to redeem for a little spending money.
Tom Ferrell, one of Gene and Ronnie’s boyhood friends has been helpful in bringing the old neighborhood to life. The west side neighborhood, or shantytown as it was sometimes called, was a mix of working people. But, just because people worked hard, didn’t necessarily mean that all of life’s basics were covered. Several of the homes in that immediate area had dirt floors, and many of the homes didn’t have indoor plumbing. Gene’s grandmother for instance, lived just around the corner from his parent’s house and she didn’t have indoor plumbing. Because of the size of Gene’s family, private space was hard to come by. Fortunately, The Odom’s had an older bachelor neighbor named Gordon Hess. That gentleman liked Gene and saw the potential in the young boy. He fed Gene his supper nearly every evening and allowed Gene to take his baths there as well as wash his clothes. Like I mentioned earlier, the people in the neighborhood looked after each other.

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